Perfect additional layer under one of the Vant jacket in the COLDEST temps.
Comfortable pants hands down. Super lightweight, breathable and I like how they’re midnight black. No light black/ blue black, just pure black. They can also be worn in a dress down attire and give that chino look. The 3 out of 5 is for the degradation of the pants. I’ve been testing them and from what I noticed is that the stretch material comes out after a wash or two and especially after using a dryer. (I hang dry btw). First pair began to fall apart after its second wash. Luckily they sent a second pair by mistake. This is for the onyx pair 2022ish/ orange pockets. So after awhile I’ll hit it with the hair trimmer lol. (You’ll see after a few washes) Thought I was living with a pitbull for second.
I’m being harsh on it because they’re at nearly 80$ and w/ shipping nearly 100$ so yeah I’m going to assume they are durable ah. And yes, I read the wash instructions. Overall try them out. I personally have 4 pairs. Relaxed is the way to go.